actually i'm not really sure

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I asked one of the resident weirdos at work about where one drew the line between post-punk (let's face it, I was still wearing whale print turtlenecks and tan corduroys when punk died) and angry goth. He had no idea. Probably my bad for asking a man who still wears piratey striped shirts every day anything about fashion, but he has been to the Manic Panic retail store and is old enough to have been there when it was in St. Mark's, so it was worth a shot.

Anyhow, can anybody give some identifiers that would place a look in one camp or the other? I can identify Romantic Goth (velvet, lace, big ornate crosses), and as far as I know stripes are goth where plaid is punk? Maybe it doesn't really matter, but damn it, I want to subcategorize the Angry Black-Wearing People!

(We also used to play Goth Or Mennonite, so it's possible I'm just a horrible person.)

Also? I has a doggie and my doggie has a blue mohawk!